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OFF-TOPIC THREAD 17: DINOSAURS ARE THE SHIT

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tawganator
2016-01-10 11:21:28
Xenomorph
I hope Deadpool does well. If not then it will be another 10 years before we get another chance at an R rated mainstream comic book movie. While most of them are good I would like to see a more adult one every now and then. At the moment all the companies just play it safe.


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-Bloo-
2016-01-10 12:28:03
Xenomorph
I really hope the Deadpool trailer is like the Kingsman trailer because the Kingsman trailer blew Huge Chunks while the actual movie was pretty enjoyable. I dunno though, it just looks pretty bad.

@SR: Yeah I know what you mean. Even the larger figures are pretty low in quality, but from what I can tell, they're also pretty sturdy which is good for kids. I just wish there were NECA-quality figures too. Or maybe there are? I should look later.

Also I don't really care if the movie follows the comics since it hasn't been for a while. I appreciate that it's not a straight up adaption and that it's doing its own thing for the most part. The Civil War trailer was honest-to-God the only GOOD trailer attached to Star Wars. All the others looked really bad, including the Deadpool one which was... just awful

@DW: Well you and DH are both wrong.

But for real, that comparison to Alien was pretty good. So @DH maybe it's not a case of Seinfeld is Unfunny, but I still think these movies (except I and II) are genuinely good. (And holy shit, you two agree on something for once??)

I guess it's just a matter of taste. I feel like it's impossible to tell who likes Star Wars. Lots of different people enjoy it, like my grandma who still watches the Wizard of Oz on her VHS player.

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Dronehive
2016-01-11 12:57:27
Xenomorph
See, I dont think Seinfeld is Unfunny accurately describes my dislike for Star Wars.

First off, I actually REALLY like the expanded unuverse. Well written story lines, likeable characters, and far more information about the world it takes place in. Star Wars, on the other hand, is not written well, with perhaps the exception of episode 5.

I dont dislike it for the tropes it created- it didnt even create too many. I dislike how it used a flat trope, the OLDEST of tropes, the monomyth (hero's journey) to fill in for the story. Star Wars (as shown by the EU) has potential to be really cool, but the writing of the movies just isnt good.

I dont dislike the WORLD Star Wars exists in, but I think the story that is presented with it is poorly written and thus is worthless to me.

Like why couldnt Dune have a good film, or something. Or just have the star wars EU. The EU is great.
DeathWraith
2016-01-11 13:44:26
Xenomorph
I should mention that I, too, think the stories are good and I like the universe, but I thought the movies were shit.

READ THE RULES


A song about me and skull_ripper that I wrote:
"Yeah, uh, yea yeah, uh, yeah, crackers gonna crack yeah, uh, yeah..."
(thats what I have so far hope u like it)
-Bloo-
2016-01-11 16:35:51
Xenomorph
That's all pretty fair. The only EU thing I've ever cared about was the first Clone Wars cartoon, but Boba Fett's Wookiepedia page made me wanna read more.

Anyway it's funny that the three objectively best ones (5, 6, and 7) are the ones that weren't directed by George Lucas.

Edit: I still enjoyed 3 more than 6 but Darth Sidious was painful to watch. My two favorite lines, "GET/DO EEET," and ,"POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!! UN!!!!!!!!!LIIIMMMIIITTEEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! POOOWWWEERR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" were really entertaining to watch, but for all the wrong reasons.

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Dronehive
2016-01-11 16:41:00
Xenomorph
Lucas is an awful director, and the less he touches a movie the better.
-Bloo-
2016-01-11 16:44:54
Xenomorph
I kinda feel bad for the guy, though. All he wants to do is play with his made up characters and so many people hate him for it. I don't think he's done anything legitimately bad (as a person, not as a director) in his adult life.

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Dronehive
2016-01-11 18:12:51
Xenomorph
Oh no, he's probably a nice person.

But he cant make a movie worth shit.

Star Wars was only "good" because he had people helping him.
DeathWraith
2016-01-11 19:32:56
Xenomorph
Well, you know how it is. Tommy Wiseau is also a really nice guy.

READ THE RULES


A song about me and skull_ripper that I wrote:
"Yeah, uh, yea yeah, uh, yeah, crackers gonna crack yeah, uh, yeah..."
(thats what I have so far hope u like it)
-Bloo-
2016-01-11 19:34:00
Xenomorph
Yeah, 5 wouldn't have been so good if Lucas wrote or directed it. The reason I single 5 out as the absolute best one is because 5 shows a much better and more complex version of the Hero's Journey than any of the other movies. Not even its resident "Yoda" characters (Obi-Wan and, uh, Yoda) are as routine as other examples of the trope.

Like, the difference between 5 and all the others is that 5 shows an organic story with things happening naturally (and with REAL struggle + with weighted actions) while the latter (especially fucking Episode 1) shows a whole lot of plot but the pacing is so bad that things just kinda happen. 3 does the same thing but to a lesser extent, and just like 5, it confronts both the viewer and the main character with a very grey conflict rather than the black and white "good vs evil" story of the others (especially 4, which is pretty much a cartoon). 5 and 3 are in no way generic hero's journeys. In a lot of ways, they actually subvert that narrative.

And the hero's journey itself isn't inherently bad, it's just that people keep writing a series of events to fit the mold rather than writing a coherent story that just HAPPENS to fit the mold. It reminds me of cakes that use too much fondant; it LOOKS right, but it tastes like shit.

@DW: JESUS, I forgot all about The Room.

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Dronehive
2016-01-11 19:53:33
Xenomorph
5 is undoubtedly the best. I'll agree. 3 is... alright. Better than 4 or 6.

7? Same issues as 1, just without child actor and Jarjar.
Deathdrop
2016-01-11 20:22:00
Yautja
David Bowie is dead. Fuck.
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