Ravanger a possible alien
ghola88, Undefined, 17 years ago
i know i know we all despise AVP extinction because of its stupid ideas, classifying predators into hunter, stalker etc. But i think the Ravanger is a possible class of alien.
Possibly the need of a ravanger is only when an
intruder example humans bring heavy equipment, maybe a tank. A praetorian going up against a APC would be sucidal. Not to mention a drone.
Probably the need of a ravenger only takes place in open war. Its sheer size would mean a preatorian would need to cocoon itself outside the hive. It's everything a praetorians cut out to be, well it is a praetorian, but it has evolved to suit its prupose more, a warrior of the hive.
Lets take a look at the ravanger, tools.
First we know that the ravanger has the ultimate claws,blades etc. Its sharp enough to probably destroy an APC, take out a batalion of marines andtake on predaors 4-5 at a time. Second, that armour plating is awesome. Making it a walking shield, possibly the ravanger would be on the front, followed by his little friends.
If your thinking: " Are you saying the carrier alien is possible too? " my answer is NO. THe carrier dosent seem right, its the total opposite of what a preatorian should be. A praetorian is made to fight and defend the hive, not bring some facehuggers around.
Ravangers arent supossed to live long, they are meant to die,either during or after the battle. In the movies they were simply not needed. Nor did the planet have enogh space for them, they are just too big.
So just state your views on this, please remember that we rely a lot on the movies AND the video games to get more insight on the AVP universe. SO we have to consider possibilities, i myself thought that AVP extinction gave us a lot on predator socialism ( more on this next time ) and on predator rituals. Thanks.
Possibly the need of a ravanger is only when an
intruder example humans bring heavy equipment, maybe a tank. A praetorian going up against a APC would be sucidal. Not to mention a drone.
Probably the need of a ravenger only takes place in open war. Its sheer size would mean a preatorian would need to cocoon itself outside the hive. It's everything a praetorians cut out to be, well it is a praetorian, but it has evolved to suit its prupose more, a warrior of the hive.
Lets take a look at the ravanger, tools.
First we know that the ravanger has the ultimate claws,blades etc. Its sharp enough to probably destroy an APC, take out a batalion of marines andtake on predaors 4-5 at a time. Second, that armour plating is awesome. Making it a walking shield, possibly the ravanger would be on the front, followed by his little friends.
If your thinking: " Are you saying the carrier alien is possible too? " my answer is NO. THe carrier dosent seem right, its the total opposite of what a preatorian should be. A praetorian is made to fight and defend the hive, not bring some facehuggers around.
Ravangers arent supossed to live long, they are meant to die,either during or after the battle. In the movies they were simply not needed. Nor did the planet have enogh space for them, they are just too big.
So just state your views on this, please remember that we rely a lot on the movies AND the video games to get more insight on the AVP universe. SO we have to consider possibilities, i myself thought that AVP extinction gave us a lot on predator socialism ( more on this next time ) and on predator rituals. Thanks.
navyspaz, Undefined, 17 years ago
I think the looks of the Ravager alone are just ridiculous, Standing as tall if not taller then the queen, with BLADE hands o_0.
Kinda beyond the line of imagination, too much i say, the maker tried to make it look "Bad A" or "Cool" rather then "Xenomorphish" like alien, no other alien looks anything like a ravager, notice the runner, drone, and warrior, all look alike, aliens are simular lookin, except for predalien.
Praetorian isn't counted either, And I think the carrier is pointless, facehuggers dont die for getting off hive, facehuggers dont need to catch a ride to get somewhere, plus I dont think a carrier can fling a facehugger as face as a facehugger can already jump.
Kinda beyond the line of imagination, too much i say, the maker tried to make it look "Bad A" or "Cool" rather then "Xenomorphish" like alien, no other alien looks anything like a ravager, notice the runner, drone, and warrior, all look alike, aliens are simular lookin, except for predalien.
Praetorian isn't counted either, And I think the carrier is pointless, facehuggers dont die for getting off hive, facehuggers dont need to catch a ride to get somewhere, plus I dont think a carrier can fling a facehugger as face as a facehugger can already jump.
ghola88, Undefined, 17 years ago
WHY cant it be taller than the queen, to defend the hive, anything is possible ( except flying aliens ). Survival comes 1st.
Stalker, Undefined, 17 years ago
Where'd you dissapear to Ghola? haven't seen you in ages m8, how you been?
For me, ravagers are a complete disgrace to the Alien franchise. Xenomorphs are means to be the ultimate killing machines, silently & intelligently hunting their prey down. Ravagers seem like the total opposite. They're basically just huge, hulking monsters with giant blades for hands, pfft, pathetic. I don't consider them canon whatsoever.
For me, ravagers are a complete disgrace to the Alien franchise. Xenomorphs are means to be the ultimate killing machines, silently & intelligently hunting their prey down. Ravagers seem like the total opposite. They're basically just huge, hulking monsters with giant blades for hands, pfft, pathetic. I don't consider them canon whatsoever.
-Bloo-, Undefined, 17 years ago
But the Queen doesn't need protection. We haven't seen all what it can do, because there have only been a few minutes of them in combat in movies.
I am a Machina-Alien! (Mok-In-Uhh)
"To me, everyone is crazy. The ones in the mental house just got caught."
ghola88, Undefined, 17 years ago
Then what is the prupose of the warrior alien? Isnt it supose the defend the hive? THe drones? THe runners? Face it the queen is venerable no matter how big she is. I admit the queen herself is enogh for a match against a suad of humans but as i said, will a queen herself be able fight a all out warfare? Infiltration by humans? CAPTURE by predators? She will need protection, and protection comes in many forms.
We have seen all it can do, if there wasnt wouldnt we have seen it already, look at her structure, pure combat, pure instinct, her purpose is to survive. To survive youll need all the tools you can get.
We have seen all it can do, if there wasnt wouldnt we have seen it already, look at her structure, pure combat, pure instinct, her purpose is to survive. To survive youll need all the tools you can get.
-Bloo-, Undefined, 17 years ago
What I meant was, she doesn't need protection from something like that. That thing wouldn't protect her, it would give out her location with its sloppy movments and huge, un-sneaky size and get her in mortal danger faster than she would have been already.
Warriors are for protection of the hive, and that doesn't mean Queen only. Drones are for everything else.
Ravagers are pathetic in my views. As an Alien, anyway. As anything else, and I mean ANYTHING else but part of the Xenomorph species, I'm happy. Of course, not if that other species is the Predator one. It would be hated even more.
Ravagers are seemingly 'cool' to most younger audiences, and that's about it. Carriers, on the other hand, are meaningless and almost as stupid as the idea of the Newborn. Facehuggers are deadlier than AVP:Extinction makes them out to be.
I am a Machina-Alien! (Mok-In-Uhh)
"To me, everyone is crazy. The ones in the mental house just got caught."
Warriors are for protection of the hive, and that doesn't mean Queen only. Drones are for everything else.
Ravagers are pathetic in my views. As an Alien, anyway. As anything else, and I mean ANYTHING else but part of the Xenomorph species, I'm happy. Of course, not if that other species is the Predator one. It would be hated even more.
Ravagers are seemingly 'cool' to most younger audiences, and that's about it. Carriers, on the other hand, are meaningless and almost as stupid as the idea of the Newborn. Facehuggers are deadlier than AVP:Extinction makes them out to be.
ghola88, Undefined, 17 years ago
bt in you reply you said dosent need protection if you spend time reading my post i said
" Probably the need of a ravenger only takes place in open war. Its sheer size would mean a preatorian would need to cocoon itself outside the hive. " and " In the movies they were simply not needed. Nor did the planet have enogh space for them, they are just too big."
plz read carefully before taking punches at me.
And as to y i dissapeared cause i have exams, Singapores exam standards are high u know.
" Probably the need of a ravenger only takes place in open war. Its sheer size would mean a preatorian would need to cocoon itself outside the hive. " and " In the movies they were simply not needed. Nor did the planet have enogh space for them, they are just too big."
plz read carefully before taking punches at me.
And as to y i dissapeared cause i have exams, Singapores exam standards are high u know.
-Bloo-, Undefined, 17 years ago
I did read it, but still, the idea of it is not very much needed. The speed of a Drone can take it down in minutes, if not seconds - Warrior. It's sheer size and weight would get in the way of it's speed - humans use far-range combat weapons. It would clearly need more speed and agility for it to be in a war. Especially in an open war.
How the marines fought in AVP:E was very... ... I can't describe it. Maybe very stupid? They stood there while it walked up to them.
I am a Machina-Alien! (Mok-In-Uhh)
"To me, everyone is crazy. The ones in the mental house just got caught."
How the marines fought in AVP:E was very... ... I can't describe it. Maybe very stupid? They stood there while it walked up to them.
ghola88, Undefined, 17 years ago
i shall not say more since some people are stagnating and will nt accept ideas. possibly the sense of logic in some beings is facinating. Given the fragility of their brain.
-Bloo-, Undefined, 17 years ago
All I'm saying is what most people would believe to be true. The Ravager would probably not do good in real-time battles, because enemies in AVP:E would stand still, even with enemies coming at them. In a real-time battle, it's common sense to move out of the way when you see some huge thing with blades as hands walking towards you.
Believe me, I've seen better creature ideas.
I am a Machina-Alien! (Mok-In-Uhh)
"To me, everyone is crazy. The ones in the mental house just got caught."
Believe me, I've seen better creature ideas.
Unknown, Undefined, 17 years ago
you say it would be handy to have around to defendthe hive from such oponants as an APC. i dont no if you had notaced the armament of the APC they have 4 vulkan cannons in real life a vulkan cannon is 7.62mm with a fire rate of 10,000 rounds a minut the ones in avp looked atleast 12.7 mm thats .50 cal.
.50 cals wer made for fighting against lightly armourd vehicals and infatry
nowe amagin 4 of thees fireing at 10.000 rpm there is no animal encluding ravangers and queens or evan preds that are going to stand up to that. evan still ontop of that modarn amunition for a .50cal weapon can be made into a minatur sabo round the sabo round was made as a tank killier fired from the 120mm cannon of the abrams M1 A1 but recent advancements in amunition technolagy reduced the sabo round doun in sise to 12.7 mm being fired from the Baret.50 anti matterrifal. comanly used buy american tank hunting teams. just 1 of thees rounds can put a hole through door of a bank safe at 50 yards id like to se an alien stand up to armour penatration like that.
and the idea of the aliens engageing in an opan ground war is cinda implosable. i dont think the aliens understand the consept of war. besids the point that there isant realy enough of them to engage in a war of anye notable sise. the aliens tend to just from hives neer humans for the simpal foct that there is a redaly avalable sorce of hosts i dont think they actavly go looknig for a fight
.50 cals wer made for fighting against lightly armourd vehicals and infatry
nowe amagin 4 of thees fireing at 10.000 rpm there is no animal encluding ravangers and queens or evan preds that are going to stand up to that. evan still ontop of that modarn amunition for a .50cal weapon can be made into a minatur sabo round the sabo round was made as a tank killier fired from the 120mm cannon of the abrams M1 A1 but recent advancements in amunition technolagy reduced the sabo round doun in sise to 12.7 mm being fired from the Baret.50 anti matterrifal. comanly used buy american tank hunting teams. just 1 of thees rounds can put a hole through door of a bank safe at 50 yards id like to se an alien stand up to armour penatration like that.
and the idea of the aliens engageing in an opan ground war is cinda implosable. i dont think the aliens understand the consept of war. besids the point that there isant realy enough of them to engage in a war of anye notable sise. the aliens tend to just from hives neer humans for the simpal foct that there is a redaly avalable sorce of hosts i dont think they actavly go looknig for a fight
nostromo, Undefined, 17 years ago
as someone said before, protoreins arent really a species of xenos. with that fact, a facehugger would have to facehug a 20ft thing with hull blades for hands, and that would have a big head, a facehugger wouldnt fit.
Deathdrop, Undefined, 17 years ago
"i shall not say more since some people are stagnating and will nt accept ideas. possibly the sense of logic in some beings is facinating. Given the fragility of their brain"
Watch it...
Watch it...
Unknown, Undefined, 17 years ago
I'd say that I don't like ravagers. Aliens by standard are not meant to be killing machines, but survivors The first alien movie shows this first and formost, and in my opinion it's the best alien movie of the lot. A big hulking slow thing with big old blades for hands and a ridiculous blue/green colour is NOT going to survive. Or get to make a kill before it's ripped apart by gunfire.
(and who said flying aliens ain't a possibility? Dinosaurs didn't fly at first, but it's known that some of them evolved into birds, why not aliens too?)
(and who said flying aliens ain't a possibility? Dinosaurs didn't fly at first, but it's known that some of them evolved into birds, why not aliens too?)