Pureblood, Yautja, 13 years ago

Actually Wraith Giger does get to confirm it, he is the artist their "creator" so yes he does get to decide whether you like it or not.

http://aliens.wikia.com/wiki/Xenomorph


And he never sold the rights to the "story" of his character, so no decision regarding editing his original alien is made without his consensus therefor all aliens are canonically female, so yes he "does" get to decide shit.

DeathWraith, Yautja, 13 years ago

No, Pureblood, no. He did concept art for a movie that belongs to Ridley Scott, whether you like it or not and regardless of what wikipedia says. Ridley Scott made the alien as a creature, Giger drew the alien's appearance. Giger doesn't get to confirm shit. The movies do.

Mebber, Yautja, 13 years ago

Sounds like another canon discussion, but I've got to agree with DW this time, Giger can talk about his thoughts and intentions as he created the look of the aliens, but he can't say anything authoritative about the aliens themselves. While he was the one responsible for the awesome-terrifying asthethics of the alien and the derelict, he had nothing to do with the movies plot or the substantial alien character itself, which was created by other authors and Ridley Scott.

The quoted wiki article itself refers to the "expanded universe" of alien, which means it includes informations of books, comics and videogames too. These sources often contradicts themselves and shouldn't be given the same significance like the original movie.

We should move away from this true/false kind of debate. In the end, the movie was made to entertain us, and there are very few actual facts about the xenomorph. Thats a good thing because it leaves plenty of space for our own imaginations, which are neither true nor false.

predatorgirl, Yautja, 13 years ago

to be honest if all xenomorphs are female i think thats stupid. some people even say that pretorions are male but i dont think this.
(this is getting quite popular)

Peterson, Yautja, 13 years ago

to add the the contemplation at hand via Gieger technicly you got the so called "Confirmation" off Wiki... For those of us uninformed about Wiki allow me to elaborate(Clears throut) Wiki is a Public Reference guide. Notice I say Guide... Which allows any user to annoymously post information some based on fact others based on fiction. So the only real answer to getting Gieger to actually comment on the gender of an alien would have to come from his studio or Fox Studios... As for him claiming the gender, he can claim all he wants he doesnt own the rights to the damn Alien Trademark, He was hired by Fox Entertainment as a Concept Artist compiled of Directors and Producers ideas. You ready for another informational speech well here it is. (Puts tobacco in his mouth) A Concept artist is sugested by the sponsering film company, the producers go to the concept artist with ideas of what they want put onto paper. the artist gives them a date and draws to the best of his ability the product of what the producers discribe to him/her. The Producers then ether take the drawing and say cool thanks heres your money or they say no im sorry thats not what we want.

IN SUMMERY! Gieger cannot officialy say what gender the aliens are because he does not own the rights to the alien. Therfore it is best to assume as mebber had said that the species has an ASexual Repoduction.

Any Questions?

Pureblood, Yautja, 13 years ago

Yes now I see what you mean DeathWraith, sorry if I talked shit I was annoyed at your disrespect of Giger.

Peterson, Yautja, 13 years ago

and once more i have brought Peace to the board! VICTORY!

dieserpents, Yautja, 13 years ago

to deathdrop

the point of a king alian is so that a queen can only start a hive after fucking a king

Deathdrop, Yautja, 13 years ago

Right, which defeats the purpose of the Xenos by making it more difficult to spread.

Peterson, Yautja, 13 years ago

a king alien would be retarded....never in the serries has there been anything besides facehuggers chest bursters drones warriors queens and an abomination and a predalien... Never a King, we discussed this already and determined that the highest likely possiblity of reproduction would be Asexual...

Deathdrop, Yautja, 13 years ago

The whole idea of the King seems rooted in the whole "men are always bigger and stronger than women" mindset. That might usually be the case with humans, but these are extraterrestrials we're talking about.

Peterson, Yautja, 13 years ago

well im not saying too much but last i checked the queen is a fucking beast compared to the rest of the hive...

Deathdrop, Yautja, 13 years ago

^ Exactly. My point was that certain people have a problem with that.

You see the same thing with the Preds; some people HATE the idea of the females being bigger and stronger than the males. My theory is that it fucks up the empowerment fantasy.

But anyway, no, there are no males xenos that we know of.

DeathWraith, Yautja, 13 years ago

It's probably coming from some kind of a teenage sexual frustration, a subconscious need to associate a female individual with a male individual. And so the meaning of the Aliens is lost, because the thing is, they are meant for killing and they don't need to have a dick to kill you.

-Bloo-, Yautja, 13 years ago

...facts aside, it probably could kill you via dick slap.

Imagine it. It probably has a retractable one, too. There's probably porn of this somewhere.

DeathWraith, Yautja, 13 years ago

I just imagined a Predator with a surprise wrist dick. Just imagine, you're defeated, the predator lifts his fist, you turn your head in anticipation of the blade that's about to rip your face off and then a dick hits you in the cheek.

Peterson, Yautja, 13 years ago

oh dear god.... images in the mind that have further scared me for life lol.

Shadowwall, Yautja, 13 years ago

There's one that didn't dodge it :)

Peterson, Yautja, 13 years ago

yeah completly blindsided me oh well...

Deathdrop, Yautja, 13 years ago

@bloo: What do you mean "Probably?"