BloodHarpy, Yautja, 13 years ago

“If we did it right, it could work. (ex - LV426's colony w/ environment) Remember how Burke explained to Ripley that the Nuclear power plant type towers made the environment breathable. Well, we could incorporate a system like that, except maybe with the factor that the WY engineers were in the middle of working on the actual terrain and environment itself when the shit hits the fan, and the only progress that was made was within the actual colony itself.”

I don’t know why I didn’t think of that., we should go with this thanx for the suggestion btw! ;)

@Deathdrop

Yeah we need breathable air on this planet because some of the Pred’s are bound to lose their mask’s.

Deathdrop, Yautja, 13 years ago

Yeah, but that's the point; the place is dangerous even for a Pred.

DeathWraith, Yautja, 13 years ago

Why would there be a colony in a place where you can't get anything, other than dead? Shouldn't there be something worth harvesting here if there's a colony? Maybe something dangerous to harvest?

delta-boy, Yautja, 13 years ago

Maybe it could be some form of vast minerals/ores/oil/material which Predators use for their weapons?

I dont know, we'll think of something though.

DeathWraith, Yautja, 13 years ago

Something volatile, please. Something that explodes when you shoot at it. Something that could collapse a portion the caves if you're not careful.

Deathdrop, Yautja, 13 years ago

Suppose it's a failed terraforming? The planet started out extremely inhospitable, and then WY tried to terraform it. The atmospheric processor was a cheapie, causing it to go on the fritz and fuck up the atmosphere so severely that it actually became WORSE than before.

This could also explain the monsters. They were apex predators in the old ecosystem, and survive now by killing and eating just about anything.

The small proto-colony is locked down to prevent the small number of colonists from dying, and the marines and/or mercs are there to move everyone off-planet. That means they have to go out and look for WY property set up on other, more remote areas.

The Xenos wake up because they sensed the environmental change (or something like that) and the Preds are there because they have a temple (or maybe some tech) there that needs to disappear FAST.

Gaunt, Yautja, 13 years ago

Sounds like good ideas, If the colony is on lockdown it will make the colonists easy prey for the Xeno's and Preds.

Perhaps the faulty terraformer could of been based on some sort of resently scavenged Pred tech which is incompatible with the construct and becomes a hybrid between Human and Predator tech with an unknown purpose (no doubt WY could have some sinister motive, a new weapon or something like that?).

This could be the reason the Preds appear on the planet.

Hope it helps :)

DeathWraith, Yautja, 13 years ago

I don't know about pred tech hybridizing itself with human tech OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE, but that would make me interested in getting whatever is there.

Deathdrop, Yautja, 13 years ago

I was thinking the Pred tech could be in the mountains or partially buried somewhere. It could have been an old hunting planet (hence the xenos), which means there could be computers or scanners or maybe some old weapons/armor/equipment laying around. Hell, maybe there's an abandoned AvP-style temple or something.

Whatever the case, the Preds don't want the humans finding it.

BloodHarpy, Yautja, 13 years ago

Nice one Deathdrop let's go with that!

AmerthystBlades, Yautja, 13 years ago

"Suppose it's a failed terraforming? The planet started out extremely inhospitable, and then WY tried to terraform it. The atmospheric processor was a cheapie, causing it to go on the fritz and fuck up the atmosphere so severely that it actually became WORSE than before.

This could also explain the monsters. They were apex predators in the old ecosystem, and survive now by killing and eating just about anything.

The small proto-colony is locked down to prevent the small number of colonists from dying, and the marines and/or mercs are there to move everyone off-planet. That means they have to go out and look for WY property set up on other, more remote areas.

The Xenos wake up because they sensed the environmental change (or something like that) and the Preds are there because they have a temple (or maybe some tech) there that needs to disappear FAST."

We should really go with this. What say you BloodHarpy?

Deathdrop, Yautja, 13 years ago

Feel free to use or discard:

Having thought about it for a bit, there probably shouldn't be very much snow. It's dry, yet cold. Everything is brittle and cracked, even the skin of the few remaining organisms.

Speaking of them, their demon-like behavior can be pretty easily explained: They're deranged. These were apex predators filling niches that made sense within the original ecosystem. With the ruined atmosphere and rapidly dropping temperature, that ecosystem has been destroyed. 99% of the plant life is gone, and with it went nearly all the herbivores these creatures used to prey on.

They're starved, crazed, wild animals living in an environment that's the complete opposite of what they're adapted for. It's like a Kangaroo living in Florida's wetlands; it just doesn't fit.

Still, these are some tough bastards. They've taken to eating anything, from the frozen remains of plants to garbage to feces to their own kind. Their skin is cracked and bleeding, and their bodies are emaciated. BOOM! Demons, or at least close enough for our purposes.

Seeing as how the place used to host a great deal more life, it makes sense that the Preds would hunt here. Back in it's heyday, there would have been a unique environment with dozens of species of dangerous creatures to hunt. There was a small temple set up here, possibly with a cemetery or something.

Point is, this was a place of some significance to the Preds. Maybe it was religious, maybe it was just a cool hunting spot, but whatever the case, they are PISSED about it's colonization. This isn't a hunt; the name of the game is slaughter.

Thing is, the Preds are going to have a rough time of it. Due to the cold, they'll have to wear full heat-suits (like the mesh except covering the entire body like a wetsuit or something) underneath full armor.

This evens things up a bit between the species, as the marines are going to be lighter and better able to move. They'll also have access to vehicles. Not that things are going to be TOO easy, though, considering how dangerous the planet is.

BloodHarpy, Yautja, 13 years ago

Oh this idea definitely going to used. So how do we work the hybrids, Bad Bloods and Xenomorphs into this? As well as the hybridization of the yautja technology DeathWraith mentioned?

Deathdrop, Yautja, 13 years ago

Rather than literal hybridization, I'm thinking maybe some of the old Pred tech was somehow activated by the botched terraforming. The signal from it interfered with the Atmospheric Processor's computer, causing the already cheap-ass machine to malfunction big time. Thus, ruined atmosphere.

If that doesn't work, maybe the Space Jockeys visited millions of years ago (hell, maybe they teraformed it ORIGINALLY) and the tech that's infested the Processor is some sort of nanotech thing that's ruined the terraforming process. This would only be discovered about half-way through, adding a sense of dread to the already creepy setting. Just what the hell is it making?

As for the Xenos, there was an underground hive that has been awakened due to a way to the surface being opened. We could have a really cool scene where they all slowly awaken.

As for the hybrids... I'm not sure. Maybe WY sends them to teach the colonists a lesson for buying outside the company? That's pretty weak, I know, so hopefully someone has something better.

By the way, I feel like I'm doing all the talking here. If anyone else has a better plan, please, feel free to speak up.

deathdrop1, Yautja, 13 years ago

Just bumping this up to see if anyone else has any input.

Mebber, Yautja, 13 years ago

Haven't read the entire thread yet (it's 04:19 on my clock), but about a possible excuse for the hybrids to enter the scene... well, if the planet was occupied by the jockeys long before, maybe they've set up some sort of laboratory for their research of the xenomorphs on the planet? They have been in contact with xenos before, so maybe they were experimenting with them too. Just like WY, only on a higher level. They could have bred any sort of hybrids in their laboratory for research purposes, and a few specimen could have survived the ages, forgotten in some sort of stasis chamber until they wake up, maybe because some stupid colonist found the chamber and deactivated the stasis field by accident.

Deathdrop, Yautja, 13 years ago

Since it seems no one else has anything to add, I'll post a draft of the scenario sometime this week.

EDIT: Sorry for the wait, folks. It'll be up tomorrow.

Deathdrop, Yautja, 13 years ago

Right, so here's the rough outline of the story so far. It's not done yet, so watch this space.

Hades 12. Where to start with this place?

Let's backtrack for a second- it's impossible to talk about Hades 12 without talking about the early days of colonization. Back then, ships were slower, and communication was shittier. The USCMC would still respond to an emergency, but they were only able to arrive 6 months or more after the fact.

That's if you lived on one of the established colonies. For a new colony on a world past the outer rim, help would be slow.

Hades 12 was a harsh world to begin with. Ridcorp assumed it would be a simple task to replicate Weyland-Yutani's (then-new) atmospheric processor technology. As everyone on that world soon found out, they were wrong.

Their attempts at simply forcing the planet to conform to their needs backfired horribly; the air was changed to the point where it could barely support the native life, yet not enough to make it breathable for humans. For reasons that are still unclear, the temperature (already quite low) dropped below freezing levels.

Furthermore, in their brilliance, Ridcorp had tried to install huge artificial gravity plates on a nearby moon. What followed is the reason this practice is banned. The gravitational pull, played with like a toy, ripped chunks of the moon off and sent them speeding toward Hades 12. They either broke up in orbit or they collided with the surface; either way, ash and soot covered the sky, blotted out the sun, and ruined any chance of escape. Only a military craft would be tough enough to get through.

What happened next was the fastest mass extinction ever recorded. Within days, the unique ecosystems of the planet blended into one hideous frozen muck. The plant life died away at an alarming rate, leaving the herbivores to starve. The carnivores gorged themselves on what little was left, then turned on each other. Within 6 months, the entire planet was almost entirely devoid of life save for surviving carnivores and the human colonists.

The colony has been completely locked down to preserve the oxygen. Once outside the colony, the air is not breathable. Even if it were, the cold is enough to kill an unprotected human within less than 10 minutes.

BloodHarpy, Yautja, 13 years ago

^Ok I really like this one. We should go with this people!

Deathdrop, Yautja, 13 years ago

More to come. If not tomorrow, then the next day.