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2010-02-06 15:15:11

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OH YEA WELL MY DAD COULD BEAT YOUR DAD!

2010-02-06 15:27:43

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Man you funny Death Wraith

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2010-02-06 15:40:54

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Are you saying that he couldn't?

But anyway, back on topic.

2010-02-06 17:16:49

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Somehow, AvP-R reminds me about the sequels to the Tremors movie. And thats because the sequels brought in epic (and ridiculous) variants of the main monster, which is a subterranean worm-creature, called "Graboid." Who hunt its prey by sensing the sound vibration from the ground, and moves towards the unlucky one, only to drag the being underground with its 3 nasty tentacles from its mouth.

All that sounded completely okay, and was easy to swallow. And the director had a great idea for its lifecycle.

Sadly, the new director wanted to change that. So he made the Graboids in the sequel, give birth to a new variant, that explodes through the poor Graboids belly. And this new variant was called "Shrieker." That can run on two legs like a dinosaur. And find its prey through a retractable, heat seeking crest on the top of their heads. And by finding enough food, they could multiply by throwing up another version of it self. Wow...

Well, it could have ended there. But no, the new director made another variant.

When the "Shrieker." Had found enough food, it could mutate to another variant. And this variant was called a "Ass-blaster." That can fly with bat like wings. And to manage to get up in the air, it releases a chemical from its... rear end, or as some would eloquently put it, the ass. Which the name reveals.

And that makes me think of the Predalien from AvP-R.

The basic idea of the xenomorph was completely fine. There was nothing wrong with it, and its lifecycle was quite alright. Even if the whole thing with changing people into an egg was a bit weird. But it could be used so many times, without getting the feeling of the concept being monotonous.

You could even create a hilarious movie, a parody of the movie Gremlins, where one needs to make sure his pet facehugger doesn't get too cuddly with someone...

Or you could create a video game, which was almost like Left 4 Dead. Where 4 survivors is forced to fight off hundreds of xenos, than zombies.

Perhaps you could even mix both plots into one. (New plots for AvP-R?)

There are so many possibilities with that concept.

Then, (As DW said) suddenly somebody gets a great idea to fu*k that up. And the result is, the Predalien from AvP-R. And the Newborn from Alien Resurrection, who looked like a copy of Amy Winehouse, but even better.

The Predalien in the movie was... ok, even if it looked cheesy. But when it could impregnant womens with its secondary mouth, then it got silly. Thats when the Predalien became a "Ass-blaster" to me...

Wouldn't it been better if the Predalien created a smaller version of an egg sac and started to lay eggs like the Alien Queen? Or perhaps it would had been better to drop the whole Predalien idea, and let a young Alien Queen go crazy in that small town, kidnapping people to be food and hosts, before it finds a safe haven to grow and start laying eggs?
Then suddenly Mulder and Scully from X-Files, arrives to save the day?

I don't know, but the whole concept could been much better. But some hyperactive directors out there just can't keep them self from using their own ideas before thinking through it deeply. Because from them, we get "sharks with lasers on their heads."

I'm afraid when somebody decides to introduce female predators, we'll get to see small anorexic beings, with gigantic asses and breasts. Who can somehow tear apart the weird steroid addicts from AvP, meaning male predators...

Thats my opinion about the Predalien. And yes, I think too much. So sorry about the novel.

2010-02-07 04:34:47

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Out of curiousity Mr_loco, how old are you?

2010-02-08 03:19:41

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28 about to be 29

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2010-02-08 05:49:38

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Yep ok no worries then. Don't mean to alarm you. I would have thought you would have appreciated more accurate plots etc. Don't mean anything by it.

2010-02-08 10:31:04

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Ain't nothin wrong with a good plot, but AVP to me is a popcorn movie dogg. It don't really matter there, as long as I feel that the movie is entertaining enough, then I appreciate it and AVP and AVP-R were both very entertaining. Like I said earlier too, I've always been more of a Predator fan than Alien fan, because imo the first Alien is too damn slow, Aliens is classic, but that one also has a slow beginning, but what saves that movie for me is what happens in the second hour.
When I went to see AVP I didn't expect to see a big ground breaking award winner, except for maybe the special FX, no I expected to see a good action movie with my favorite species of all time, the Yautja kick a bunch of Xeno Ass and that I did get to see (at least in the second one, Wolf is my favorite predator). I didn't care for the first one until I saw the directors cut, the first one I always got pissed when the predators died so fast, that shit sucked big time, but thank god for Scar, at least he kinda knew what he was doing....
As for Predators, I'm really looking forward for this movie, and I don't expect it to be a major sophisticated drama or ground breaking award winner either, I'm just happy to see the Yautja tear out a few spines and collect some nice trophies! I watch these movies for the action and special FX.

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2010-02-08 18:42:16

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Ahh well that explains a lot. I personally like more depth in movies and popcorn movies gets fastforwarded pretty fast (in case someone remembers the VHS times lol). In fact I hate almost all movies with lot of FX 'cos they look unreal, actors act very stiff and unrealistic, and the plot is replaced by thousands of jumping things getting blasted away by other thing... BORING! Even old school brainless splatter movies tend to have more plot than nowadays 'masterpieces', which is kind of sad 'cos it gives you the image of nowadays people's urge to get their brains turned off-mode like head would be just bowl of morning porridge.

I honestly can't see any of the predator cunning and superiority in the avps', nor the horror of unknown parasitic being of aliens. The mood of dark pressuring atmosphere or superior hunter of humans simply doesn't exist if the actors act bad and the plot is something ripped out from the ass. The movie just loses it's credibility in my eyes when you can't get into it, nor you care what happens to the characters (even to the "things" I often relate to). It just makes you wish everybody would die soon and the movie would end.

But that's just my opinion.

2010-02-08 20:33:20

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Well, the AvP movies was made for the younger audience, than for the old fans who like the classics. Because the directors of the AvP movies wanted to introduce the franchise to them. But also making the 'plots' a bit easier for them to understand, by just showing "They did this and that, so thats why they slaughter each other. End of story." Because they know thats enough for the younger audience who is just after action and effects. Than what the old fans are after, who might wonder how everything was created, and make tons of topics on internet sites to discuss how an alien egg manage to open it self when the facehugger crawls out.

But it is pretty easy to please the younger audience, when mixing two of the major things teenagers love these days... Romance and Action.

In AvP-R, it had the typical teenage love conflict thingy, where some nerd has feelings for a 'sexy' bimbo who was stupid enough to get together with a steroid junkie, who is also a jackass towards the nerd dude. It's in almost every teenage movie these days. And still teenagers love it, even if they've seen it in all their favorite movies. And thats why AvP-R become a 'horror' movie with teenagers, who you wouldn't care less about. Just like in the Jason movies...

And it works completely fine for the directors, as they get their cash, and the audience get something... Epic we other don't understand much of when wondering where the plot is, after seeing "sharks with lasers on their heads." (Had to use that quote again.)

I wouldn't doubt that AvP3 becomes something like this:

The main character is a male predator, whos name is Ed'ward. And he is together with a female human, named Bulla, who tries to convince him she loves him, while he is whining that they shouldn't be together due to their diferences. And this is the first hour of the movie, which is basically just whining from both sides.

Then a evil female predator appears and see all this, and get jealous of their love, and also disgusted that her own kind is together with a human. So she unleashes hell upon them both by releasing aliens into the town (without explaining why), and the male predator needs to save the day by killing them all, but instead falls in love with the alien Queen, and they both tries to keep it as a secret with more whining. Since the predator doesn't want to hurt Bulla. And the Queen doesn't want to shock her 250 kids, since they are still mourning over the alpah male who got hit by a truck, or something...

Then suddenly Bulla finds out about this and gets heart broken, and tries to shoot Ed'ward with a gun. But the female predator jumps in front of him to take the bullet, saving him. And tells him she did it because she found out he was her long lost brother, etc, etc.

Ed'ward then apologizes to Bulla and the alien Queen, and says he cannot be together with any of them. Because he is actually homosexual, and in love with Bulla's father, who is not her real father. But her mothers rapist.

And in the end they all play baseball together! ^__^

Thats my second opinion.

2010-02-08 20:53:22

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Actually that plot sounded rather good << jk lol

I do wonder tho why they shove that "teenager love" thing into everything. It just doesn't work, it makes you gag in disgust when you're under 13 (BOYBUGS YACK!) and when you're older than 13 it makes you be like wtf who wrote this crap. I wonder what kind of people it's actually directed to.

2010-02-08 22:15:52

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Well AvPR was probably made for the 19 year old American who works as a pizza delivery guy and has always had a crush on a girl who is the biggest douche's girlfriend but is secretly a nice girl because all nice girls have douche boyfriends because nice secretly means retarded. And it tries to show them that they should not be afraid to pursue their love because you never know when a fucking predator pinns her to a fucking wall man. :'( So sad, so true.

(at 13?? shit more like 4 or 5?)